April 23, 2014

mister-smalls:

The Anime Club is literally the most accurate fictitious representation of what it’s like when nerds hang out with each other

You’re all too opinionated to get along but no one else will hang out with you because you’ve been established as an outsider, so you just hang out with the same group of other opinionated nerds for like six years and you all hate each other but you have no other options for friendship

Not that I know from experience or anything

The Five Geek Social Fallacies is alarmingly accurate.  

This is why it’s recommended, in my opinion, to acquire friends who respect and maybe occasionally indulge in your specific geekish tendencies, but aren’t actually a member of that geeky circle.  Those kinds of friends are valuable people.

(via mmanalysis)

April 23, 2014

fayfayren:

The Falcon & Falconette

(via acceber74)

April 23, 2014

tumblrs/sites I frequent these days:

  • worstroom - because…expensive rent for crappy homes is the worst
  • how may we hate you? - because…customer service to awful people is the worst
  • 1purp0se - because…abusive people in fandom/RP are dangerous
  • various creepy-pasta/cryptid/ghost/urban legend tumblrs - because…scary can be scary. and fun!!

And now looking at this line-up of sites, I wonder what it means about my current state of mind?  It’s interesting seeing them all here gathered like this.  Hunh.  I guess I’m in a cathartic phase in my life? Or something!

April 23, 2014
note to self

Next time this scenario plays out - and it plays out a LOT where I work - I now have a good comeback.

DUDE:  *makes fun of his wife spending all his hard-earned money/complains about wife nagging him about everything/mocks wife for being annoying somehow/loudly brays about other heteronormative breeder-mentality bullshit/engages in ‘poor husband! poor me!’ whining*

DUDE: Sooooo you’re not married yet, are you?

ME: Nahh. I’m not really interested in being married.

DUDE:  *gasp!* Whaaaaat how come???!

ME: Because I don’t want any man to ever talk about me the way you just talked about your wife.

April 23, 2014

mia-culpa asked: The first few eps of BB are a little rough (there's a child molestation joke in the pilot I think, which I forgot about until I was rewatching) but it gets its grove and is amazing. I usually hate male voices mocking female characters, but the show NEVER does that with Tina or Linda, they're actually fantastic characters (Tina especially, hah).

OH well yeah I am definitely thinking starting either halfway through S1 or maybe with S2 might be a good idea, then I’ll just watch backwards once I’ve been endeared to the characters!  Thanks, bb!!

April 23, 2014

jindywahr:

jindywahr:

I tried watching Bob’s Burgers

glockgal:

(my observation is very gender binary, cissexism ahoy)

The beginning credits scene was cute! But I got like five seconds in and then the mom-characters started talking and her voice was a male voice actor doing that ‘I’m doing…

Glad the context helped. It’s true, Tina is also voiced by a man (Dan Mintz). It’s a very different kind of performance, so I don’t know if you’d have the same problems with it or not. I don’t know why that particular casting decision was made, but the character is so endearing to me that I don’t really fault it. It does seem like a shame that there aren’t more female voice actors in the main cast, though!

If you do ever decide to give the show another try, you might consider jumping right in to Season 2. That’s what I did (on a friend’s recommendation). I actually never made it all the way through the pilot, either! Most shows and characters and performances are still a little broad and undercooked in their pilots and first seasons, but I think by the second season, Bob’s Burgers had a better idea of who the characters were and what the show’s rhythm should be.

HM.  Actually that’s a really good point - and while it’s worth it for me to slog through some Season 1s if only so I can subsequently rant about how much the first season is just so hindered compared to the other seasons - I think in this case I’ll skip it, and come back to it.

Sitcoms are really good for that! I skipped S1 of Community and The Office (US) and QAF-US (not a sitcom, but for me it pretty much was a sitcom LOL OH QAF) and when I went back and watched those eps I was like “much different, such network controlled, very uncharacter. awkward. wow”.

Awesome suggestion!!  Thank you!

April 23, 2014

tallycola:

glockgal:

jindywahr:

I tried watching Bob’s Burgers

glockgal:

(my observation is very gender binary, cissexism ahoy)

The beginning credits scene was cute! But I got like five seconds in and then the mom-characters started talking and her voice was a male voice actor doing that ‘I’m doing an impression of a woman nyaaaaa’ voice and I had to turn the show…

I don’t know if this would make you feel better or worse about it, but John Roberts (the actor who voices Linda), is in fact doing an impression of his own mother. He kind of got his start (and this job, I believe) by doing a series of funny (and I think, touching) videos on youtube impersonating his mother, and it’s really the exact same voice he uses for Linda. I think that may be part of why I enjoy his performance so much: it is based in reality and therefore very specific and fleshed out. And while it is, of course, a little mocking, I think it is also extremely affectionate. I’ve never thought of it as stereotypical or generalized, but maybe that’s a cultural thing? I don’t think Linda’s voice and mannerisms much resemble my own mother, or the women I grew up around, or my understanding of female gender norms.

I think it probably takes more than one scene, or even one episode to get a sense of the full development of the character, though. And maybe you didn’t catch a good episode? I hope you give the show another chance. Personally, I love it!

The context does help, thanks!  Given that it’s gotten such dependable recs from people I trust, I figured there had to be some sort of reason behind the voice actor and his voice choices.  

You’re right that it’s possibly is a knee-jerk thing for me as well.  I’ve been thinking about this all day. And I’ve worked in three vastly different but heavily macho/man-oriented industries and of course I’ve heard all the anecdotes and fussing about their girlfriends/wives/sisters/moms/etc. And they of COURSE utilize all manner of whiny, abrasive, nasal voices to impersonate the woman in question. It’s an easy shortcut method to make the woman seem immediately unsympathetic and unreasonable, for these stories.  

Maybe in my older, cranky years my tolerance for guys putting on That Female Voice for the sake of laughs is wearing thin. More thin than I’d realized hahaha.  Honestly I didn’t expect that reaction from myself when I heard the Linda character speak.

But yeah for me context DOES help a lot.  I checked out imdb and correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like one of the daughters is voiced by a male voice actor too?  If I do watch the show again, I just wanna be prepared.

I started with S1 Ep1 on Netflix, hee.  Thanks so much for your thoughts!

Tina is voiced by a man as well - originally Tina was a boy named Daniel, and they found that a teenage boy telling their father his crotch was itchy wasn’t particularly funny or new. They decided to try doing Daniel as a girl, but without changing anything but the name, which is what I’ve advised people who are afraid of writing women to do for years. And now Tina is like, everyone’s favourite character!!

The men voicing women bothered me at first, but honestly I love the way the show deals with gender. Bob and Linda are 100% supportive of/unphased by both Tina’s burdgeoning sexual grossness (I could write a whole essay on the way Tina represents teen girls that are otherwise almost never seen, awkward and sexual nerds - usually teen girl nerds are totally pure and shy, or they’re hot sexual masters like cheerleaders or something) and Gene’s forays into cross dressing and other gender play.

Have you seen the episode where Bob starts driving a taxi to pay for Tina’s birthday party? He makes friends with a group of transgendered prostitutes and there is zero judgment or cracks made at their expense. One, Marshmallow, becomes a recurring character. In a recent episode Linda thought she was psychic and made a prediction about “tall, dark and handsome” coming into the restaurant. Marshmallow, who is tall and black, came into the restaurant and Linda said that was her prediction. Bob said “Marshmallow’s not handsome, she’s beautiful” and my heart melted a bit. It’s just rare that you get sitcom characters that are just - kind? Bob has jerky moments but they’re always organic, and never bullying, like, for instance, Family Guy.

Once Bob thought a male deli clerk was hitting on him and was totally flustered and flattered “you’re out of my league!”. There’s zero macho posturing with Bob and that’s why he’s one of my favourite male characters right now. And I want to be Linda when I grow up. And Louise. And I’m basically Tina now, lol.

I totally agree with your assessment of ‘just change a boy character to a girl character and BOOM insta-fresh original character’ and I’ve seen a loooot of gifsets on tumblr about Tina.  She might not be who I really associate with personally, but I LOVE the idea of having the awkward, gross sexual girl-nerd.  Too long that trope’s been the realm solely belonging to TV and movie pre-teen/teenaged boy characters, which is not realistic at all.  AT. ALL.  I KNEW SO MANY GROSS-THINKING NERD GIRLS GROWING UP AND THEY WERE AWESOME.  

ANYWAY, you peeps are ridiculously good at convincing me.  Also I am ridiculously susceptible to trusted peer pressure.  We’re a match made in heaven. XD XD

Thanks so much Tallybb!!

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April 23, 2014

attilee:

attilee:

glockgal:

The context does help, thanks!  Given that it’s gotten such dependable recs from people I trust, I figured there had to be some sort of reason behind the voice actor and his voice choices.  

You’re right that it’s possibly is a knee-jerk thing for me as well.  I’ve been thinking about this all day. And I’ve worked in three vastly different but heavily macho/man-oriented industries and of course I’ve heard all the anecdotes and fussing about their girlfriends/wives/sisters/moms/etc. And they of COURSE utilize all manner of whiny, abrasive, nasal voices to impersonate the woman in question. It’s an easy shortcut method to make the woman seem immediately unsympathetic and unreasonable, for these stories.  

Maybe in my older, cranky years my tolerance for guys putting on That Female Voice for the sake of laughs is wearing thin. More thin than I’d realized hahaha.  Honestly I didn’t expect that reaction from myself when I heard the Linda character speak.

But yeah for me context DOES help a lot.  I checked out imdb and correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like one of the daughters is voiced by a male voice actor too?  If I do watch the show again, I just wanna be prepared.

I started with S1 Ep1 on Netflix, hee.  Thanks so much for your thoughts!

Tina is also voiced by a male voice actor, as the show originally had her role set as a male- Daniel. As far as I’m aware, it was a last minute change of the character’s sex, the showrunners deciding it would be interesting, both in the character’s relatability and comedically. On the show they have their eldest child acting as a non-stereotypical, but still very hormonal teenage girl. To my knowledge, the voice actor remained the same because of his delivery of lines, as well as how well his voice could pass for a pubescent girl. 

Tina has quickly grown to be my favorite character on the show, mainly because of how she throws girlhood on its head and is like WHATEVER I WILL OPENLY EXPRESS MYSELF AND MY DESIRES, I DON’T WANT TO BE QUIET. She’s not ashamed in any of her ‘weirdness’ and it’s so endearing. Much like Linda, the writing for Tina comes from a very loving place, I feel as the jokes with her character have never felt like they hit on her in a mocking way. Although, much like Linda, it might take you a few scenes, or a few episodes to get a full sense of her character. 

I really do hope you give the show a chance! But if it’s not for you, no biggie. Not every show works for everyone (: 

AH I CAN’T BELIEVE I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS BUT: The most important aspect of Tina as a character might just exist in the characters around her. Yes, Tina openly expresses her feelings and desires (be it hitting on an entire minor league baseball team, or the boy across the street with the cute butt), BUT her family never never NEVER, makes her feel like a joke because of what she feels, or how she expresses those feelings. They are loving, supportive, and overflowingly positive in all that Tina expresses to them. 

Bob’s Burger’s family is perhaps one of the most loving and supportive families that I have ever had the pleasure of viewing on an adult cartoon. Think, ‘Do It For Her’ levels of positivity and familial love. 

OMFG Attilee you just used the magical Simpsons episode reference. I’m like tearing up just thinking about it, DAMMIT ARRGH MY FEELINGS.

But YEAH okay I think I’m starting to reconcile and honestly ‘happy loving dysfunctional family’ is my favouritest dynamic ever on TV because it’s hardly EVER shown so YES okay.  Given context and all this awesome support, I shall gird my loins with these expectations and try, try again!

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April 22, 2014

jindywahr:

I tried watching Bob’s Burgers

glockgal:

(my observation is very gender binary, cissexism ahoy)

The beginning credits scene was cute! But I got like five seconds in and then the mom-characters started talking and her voice was a male voice actor doing that ‘I’m doing an impression of a woman nyaaaaa’ voice and I had to turn the show…

I don’t know if this would make you feel better or worse about it, but John Roberts (the actor who voices Linda), is in fact doing an impression of his own mother. He kind of got his start (and this job, I believe) by doing a series of funny (and I think, touching) videos on youtube impersonating his mother, and it’s really the exact same voice he uses for Linda. I think that may be part of why I enjoy his performance so much: it is based in reality and therefore very specific and fleshed out. And while it is, of course, a little mocking, I think it is also extremely affectionate. I’ve never thought of it as stereotypical or generalized, but maybe that’s a cultural thing? I don’t think Linda’s voice and mannerisms much resemble my own mother, or the women I grew up around, or my understanding of female gender norms.

I think it probably takes more than one scene, or even one episode to get a sense of the full development of the character, though. And maybe you didn’t catch a good episode? I hope you give the show another chance. Personally, I love it!

The context does help, thanks!  Given that it’s gotten such dependable recs from people I trust, I figured there had to be some sort of reason behind the voice actor and his voice choices.  

You’re right that it’s possibly is a knee-jerk thing for me as well.  I’ve been thinking about this all day. And I’ve worked in three vastly different but heavily macho/man-oriented industries and of course I’ve heard all the anecdotes and fussing about their girlfriends/wives/sisters/moms/etc. And they of COURSE utilize all manner of whiny, abrasive, nasal voices to impersonate the woman in question. It’s an easy shortcut method to make the woman seem immediately unsympathetic and unreasonable, for these stories.  

Maybe in my older, cranky years my tolerance for guys putting on That Female Voice for the sake of laughs is wearing thin. More thin than I’d realized hahaha.  Honestly I didn’t expect that reaction from myself when I heard the Linda character speak.

But yeah for me context DOES help a lot.  I checked out imdb and correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like one of the daughters is voiced by a male voice actor too?  If I do watch the show again, I just wanna be prepared.

I started with S1 Ep1 on Netflix, hee.  Thanks so much for your thoughts!

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April 22, 2014

imaginarycircus replied to your post: I tried watching Bob’s Burgers

Did you feel like it took the female character’s humanity away and reduced her to a joke? Because that would drive me up a wall. D:

I can’t even remember what she said!  She just started talking and I was like ‘nnnnnoooope nope nope can’t handle this, wah bye’.  Imagine like…imagine like a guy trying to do an impression of Fran Drescher.  On Fran it’s adorable because she owns it (at least, this is my interpretation of Fran’s voice on her).  When a dude does it’s like wait what why are you doing that.  

Like, is the joke that her voice is that nasally, flat, semi-shouting city-bred mom-voice? Or that it’s a guy doing that voice?  Because if it’s the former, then why not just cast a female voice actor?  Maybe there’s some sort of context that I’m missing, I dunno.

April 22, 2014
I tried watching Bob’s Burgers

(my observation is very gender binary, cissexism ahoy)

The beginning credits scene was cute! But I got like five seconds in and then the mom-character started talking and her voice was a male voice actor doing that ‘I’m doing an impression of a woman nyaaaaa’ voice and I had to turn the show off.   I honestly didn’t realize how much I personally have an aversion to men doing a certain style of voice-acting for female characters until that moment?  IDK.  Buh.

And I mean, I’m not saying that people shouldn’t be voice actors for things that are not exactly them!  But I dunno, it was the voice that the male voice actor chose for the mom, it was just…it made me feel weird and uncomfortable and I’m not even really sure why? I don’t really know how to articulate it.  

I think it’s because I’m used to hearing guys use that voice when they want to imitate and mock their wives/girlfriends/mothers/ etc.  Which I suppose it ultimately the point? Argh, I dunno.  I really don’t.

But I am sad because I was looking forward to watching the show!  Wah.  Ah well, I’m glad it is a show people enjoy! I think this is just one of my own personal quirks, which I only discovered this weekend and now I’ll need to figure out why I feel this way.

April 22, 2014

cleromancy replied to your post: squintyoureyes replied to your post: D…

i heard it was for ps3 too???

squintyoureyes replied to your post: squintyoureyes replied to your post: D…

ahhhh my mistake!!! FALSE ALARM

OH THANKS GOODNESS.  But to tell you the truth, this momentary fright and subsequent relief has only tripled my slavering excited anticipation for this game, so.  Thank you!  XD  Y’all kinda made my day. 

April 22, 2014

squintyoureyes replied to your post: Dragon Age: Inquisition release date O…

GUESS WE GOTTA GET PS4s NOW

wait

it’s not for PS3?

nnnnnnnnNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

April 22, 2014

Dragon Age: Inquisition release date October 7 omgaaaawwww go away summer just get me to October I have no use for summer anyway

April 17, 2014

imaginarycircus asked: I didn't know you were over here! HI! I still have your painting of Ginny and Bill having a blinking contest on my wall. <3

I AM HERE! AND SO ARE YOU! OMG.  Ahhhhhhhh no waaaaay omg I am flaily.  That art is so old and we are so old school. <333333

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