I tried watching Bob’s Burgers
(my observation is very gender binary, cissexism ahoy)
The beginning credits scene was cute! But I got like five seconds in and then the mom-characters started talking and her voice was a male voice actor doing that ‘I’m doing an impression of a woman nyaaaaa’ voice and I had to turn the show…
I don’t know if this would make you feel better or worse about it, but John Roberts (the actor who voices Linda), is in fact doing an impression of his own mother. He kind of got his start (and this job, I believe) by doing a series of funny (and I think, touching) videos on youtube impersonating his mother, and it’s really the exact same voice he uses for Linda. I think that may be part of why I enjoy his performance so much: it is based in reality and therefore very specific and fleshed out. And while it is, of course, a little mocking, I think it is also extremely affectionate. I’ve never thought of it as stereotypical or generalized, but maybe that’s a cultural thing? I don’t think Linda’s voice and mannerisms much resemble my own mother, or the women I grew up around, or my understanding of female gender norms.
I think it probably takes more than one scene, or even one episode to get a sense of the full development of the character, though. And maybe you didn’t catch a good episode? I hope you give the show another chance. Personally, I love it!
The context does help, thanks! Given that it’s gotten such dependable recs from people I trust, I figured there had to be some sort of reason behind the voice actor and his voice choices.
You’re right that it’s possibly is a knee-jerk thing for me as well. I’ve been thinking about this all day. And I’ve worked in three vastly different but heavily macho/man-oriented industries and of course I’ve heard all the anecdotes and fussing about their girlfriends/wives/sisters/moms/etc. And they of COURSE utilize all manner of whiny, abrasive, nasal voices to impersonate the woman in question. It’s an easy shortcut method to make the woman seem immediately unsympathetic and unreasonable, for these stories.
Maybe in my older, cranky years my tolerance for guys putting on That Female Voice for the sake of laughs is wearing thin. More thin than I’d realized hahaha. Honestly I didn’t expect that reaction from myself when I heard the Linda character speak.
But yeah for me context DOES help a lot. I checked out imdb and correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like one of the daughters is voiced by a male voice actor too? If I do watch the show again, I just wanna be prepared.
I started with S1 Ep1 on Netflix, hee. Thanks so much for your thoughts!