June 4, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: My invitation’s probably still in the mail!
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: My invitation’s probably still in the mail!

- Kyle Rayner

March 25, 2012
[image: fanart by glockgal. racebended Superboy.]
This post is dedicated to Metakate, because she is amaze.
(also, I made a little icony one? In case you don’t have time to make one. :D)

[image: fanart by glockgal. racebended Superboy.]

This post is dedicated to Metakate, because she is amaze.

(also, I made a little icony one? In case you don’t have time to make one. :D)

superboy

March 7, 2012
Why Not Cassie Sandsmark (reply 2)

schizoauthoress:

glockgal:

*grin* Sorry for the surprise!wake up. :D I just like when people mention Tana Moon, especially in conjunction to how important and integral she was.  And I totally agree with you about not just Peter David’s writing of Cassie as Kon’s OTP but also how writers make Cassie totally inconsistent in general.  I guess for me, I cut her character some slack (ie: blame it on the writers) and turn my fannish ire on Kon, since there are enough male characters in DCaU that I feel his actions and personality denote his individual character, whereas Cassie is sometimes used by writers to shoe-horn a female trope: “the hysterical girl” or “the nagging girlfriend” or “the damsel in distress” or “all women have interchangeable personalities: lookin’ for love” etc.  Given your (righteous) irritation over Cassie the character as well as writers’ treatment of Cassie, I know you know what I mean, lol.

It’s okay, I’m just sort of… bemused.  Whenever one of my posts gets a sudden surge in popularity, I sort of flail and go “what? people are paying attention to me? they agree and/or want to have discussions, what?” XD

Hee! Resurrecting old discussions is always fun when it comes to Tumblr fandom. XD

schizoauthoress:

I think I understand what you mean.  There’s more… respect from the writers regarding a male character’s personality traits, but female characters tend to get lumped under an umbrella of “this is what girls do, right?”

Exactamundo! I’m always leery of ‘annoying’ female characters in most comics books because, I always have to remind myself that it’s like a 45-year old man who is trying to write the PoV of a teenaged girl. So, essentially, they write from their experience and the results are usually rife with male-gaze wtfery.

schizoauthoress:

(Well.  There was respect for Kon’s personality traits and tastes, and then “Graduation Day” and “Teen Titans” v3 happened.)

Yeah don’t get me wrong - there are certain aspects of Kon that I used to really love!  So I don’t really have any treatise on why everyone should dislike Kon as much as I do.  I just know I do. :D

schizoauthoress:

I think the most hurtful thing for me, personally, regarding Tana Moon’s death… and her subsequent replacement as Superboy’s girlfriend by Cassie Sandsmark… was this message I picked up that “the brown girl isn’t good enough to date Superboy”. 

I feel ya.  This is a big thing for me as well, and one of the main reasons why I paid attention to Tana, despite not reading the SB comics. She seemed so awesome while also being a brown girl. I mean. how often do you get that in a comic book?  If I had followed the Kon’s arc from his comics into YJ, I’d feel that hurt too.  It’s definitely not the first or last time the comics have booted (and not just booted, but retconned, dismissed, supported fan-hatred of) a character of colour so that the two pretty white people can find ‘REAL true love’.  And everytime, it feels so errrrrggg.

schizoauthoress:

There are also problems with Cassie becoming Superboy’s girlfriend… namely, that she was pretty much reduced to “Superboy’s girlfriend”.  The fact that this seems to be the pinnacle of her character, the cornerstone of her involvement in the hero business during the “Teen Titans” v3 run more often than not just sits wrong with me.  (And that’s the writers, not the character, I know… but looking at it from an in-universe viewpoint, Cassie looks really bad.  Obsessed with Conner Kent and stuff.)

YES.  This was my impression of Cassie as well.  Her last run in Teen Titans with the whole Superboy Prime arc and the way she was written afterwards, I was like “Who IS this character?”. It was all tears, all the time. (and her and Tim hooking up? NO, GOD NO. Ironically, it felt even grosser because there was the implication that the only reason they were hooking up was because they both wanted to get into Kon’s pants and….noooooooooooooo *shudders*)

schizoauthoress:

Part of my objection to Tim/Kon is the fandom that swirls around it…the apologists, the ones who seem to laugh at behavior which, frankly, codes as abusive to me…

And a lot of it is because Tim Drake is written as a pretty awful person sometimes, but he gets lauded for it. (I posted a panel from the Argent/Robin Double Shot — back in the days of “Teen Titans” v2 — where he says Spoiler can’t speak for herself and turns down an offer of membership with the Titans for both of them, even though Spoiler may have wanted to join.  Stuff like that colors my view of Tim Drake, and it’s not a pretty color.)

But that’s sort of a separate discussion and I’ve derailed.  Sorry!  I get very chatty sometimes.

It’s all good, because I agree with everything you’ve said about both Tim/Kon and Tim.  You’re right about time marching on; I fell in love with the characters at a certain point in the DCaU…and then gradually the subsequent plot/writers just deteriorated them until they aren’t even recognizable as the characters I used to read.  /old fangirl griping

This is why I tend to stick to fandom and then just cherry pick what I want from canon, heh. Speaking of, I’mma follw you now! \o/

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March 7, 2012
Why Tana Moon / Why Not Cassie Sandsmark

schizoauthoress:

glockgal:

A good read. I didn’t collect the Superboy comics, but I was aware of Tana Moon and what she contributed to Superboy’s story.  And although I get that the above post is a retort for all the fangirls who Tana-erase/dismiss/slag,  I’d still rather not vilify Cassie’s ‘girlfriend’ qualities in comparison to Tana Moon’s.  Women’s ability to take care of an entitled self-pitying manchild shouldn’t be a contest. Clearly the dud that connects both female characters is Kon.  It’s not Cassie’s fault that she wasn’t a ‘good girlfriend’. Just like it’s not Tana’s fault that she put up with his jackassery out of love. It’s Kon’s fault for being a complete asshole to both Tana and Cassie in different situations and then getting away with it because he’s a cutie-wootie white* boy. 

* white-presenting for all intents and purposes. 

[Note: I never really know whether or not to tag with #Cassie Sandsmark on these posts… since I do not like her, and I know that people do not like seeing character-hate in their tracked tags.  But she’s important to this discussion so I will.]

I wasn’t exactly expecting to wake up to 22 likes/reblogs of a three-month-old post. (And seriously, everyone picks up these posts that I write when I am way emotional, months after the fact.  It’s getting to be a thing and I am confused.)

But I’d like to point out three things that colored the original post:
1) I don’t really like Cassie Sandsmark.  Yes, I have toned down my deep dislike of the character in the intervening months (to the point where I can use “deep dislike”) but I still don’t like her.

2) I do like Kon-El.  You may call him a “manchild”, but he actually is a child in the sense that he might look like a teen, but about two or three years old by the time he joins Young Justice.  So I have a little more sympathy for him, as a young clone, being socially dumb and sort of thoughtless when it comes to the attention of pretty ladies. (He got better!  And then he got age-locked and started acting like a caricature of himself…)

3) To be completely honest, I see less erasure in favor of Cassie, and more erasure in favor of Tim.  And I hate Tim/Kon with a passion. While I might tone down my hate of Cassie to dislike (and redirect that hate to her writers), I will never ever stop hating Tim/Kon.

Now, to be fair.  Cassie is written really unevenly, especially since she sort of got kicked out of “Wonder Woman” (by writers/editorial, not by characters) to be part of team books.  And she was manipulated by Match (the clone of Superboy, impersonating Superboy with Young Justice in the leadup to “Sins of Youth”) into thinking that Superboy liked her. 

And Kon’s history with Tana Moon is complicated.  She vanished from his book for about twenty issues before reappearing for her final story arc, and Peter David may have taken that as carte blanche to have Kon hook up with one of the girls in the team book. 

But I thought that Kon asking the Wild Men to look for Tana — as sort of a side-quest as they explored the world beyond the Wild Lands — was indicative that he still had feelings for her, or at least something to resolve…

Follow that with the way Peter David had Cassie act at the end of “Sins of Youth”, and the whole way that Kon/Cassie was set up leaves a bad taste in my mouth. 

Cassie was there.  At the Cadmus Project, as Serling Roquette worked to save Superboy from being torn apart by the science and magic trying to age up his locked genetic code.  Cassie was the last person that Tana Moon spoke to before Kon walked out of the lab aged up to Superman.

Cassie could not have missed the horrific way that Tana Moon died, nor Kon’s honest, heartbroken reaction to her death.  Yet in the “Sins of Youth” conclusion [Sins of Youth #2], her reaction to his return to the proper age is to hug him and declare:

Cassie: “Kon, you look terrific!  And this is as good a time as any to tell you—”
Kon:Pain?!” (she hugged him with super-strength)
Cassie: “No, I’m not in pain, I’m in—” (it’s pretty clear she was going to say ‘I’m in love’) “wait… pain?”

I have a lot to say to this.  Okay, so… Cassie thinks that mere hours after watching Kon’s old girlfriend die — a girlfriend that he clearly still had some feelings for, whose death he was willing to avenge by killing her killer — is “as good a time as any” to confess her feelings to him.  Feelings that she knows he might not share, since all the kissing that happened prior to this was due to his clone, Match, manipulating her feelings to his advantage.  All the kissing was with his clone.

But mostly… I just have to say… Peter David, get some goddamn class.  Use some thought bubbles, have her consider telling him of her love for him, but only say that she’s sorry that he’s hurting from the loss of Tana.  The way Cassie is actually written in that scene makes her look opportunistic and callous.  While Cassie may be sometimes reckless (see her first appearance in Wonder Woman, and as Wonder Girl), it was usually with other people’s property before this point, not their hearts.  She does have a measure of compassion.

Peter David sidelined that character trait (an important character trait for all the Wonders, in my opinion), in favor of fast-tracking his pet pairing.  I hate it in fanfiction, and I will hate it in professional writing.

*grin* Sorry for the surprise!wake up. :D I just like when people mention Tana Moon, especially in conjunction to how important and integral she was.  And I totally agree with you about not just Peter David’s writing of Cassie as Kon’s OTP but also how writers make Cassie totally inconsistent in general.  I guess for me, I cut her character some slack (ie: blame it on the writers) and turn my fannish ire on Kon, since there are enough male characters in DCaU that I feel his actions and personality denote his individual character, whereas Cassie is sometimes used by writers to shoe-horn a female trope: “the hysterical girl” or “the nagging girlfriend” or “the damsel in distress” or “all women have interchangeable personalities: lookin’ for love” etc.  Given your (righteous) irritation over Cassie the character as well as writers’ treatment of Cassie, I know you know what I mean, lol.

Ahaha yeah maybe 8 years ago, I used to enjoy the Tim/Kon pairing but eventually that enjoyment ended. To the point where I’m now severely uninterested in the pairing. I blame (credit?) an RPG I was in, where Tim/Kon just became so creepy and invasive/obsessive and yet so consistent with the current canon characters/plot that it became difficult to reverse the overlay between fanon and canon. And so I just wanted it to end, lol.

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March 7, 2012

[image: fanart by glockgal. Two separate drawbles depicting Superboy and Red Robin]

…aaaaannnd before I lose followers for my previous reblog, lemme just throw up some old drawbles of Kon and Tim.  Heh.

March 7, 2012
Why Tana Moon?

schizoauthoress:

[Disclaimer: I am typing this up while very emotional. Although recent posts have set me off, this rage at the treatment of Tana by canon, and her erasure by fandom, has been boiling below the surface for a long time.]

I saw this in the “superboy” tag, people asking why bother putting Tana in season two of Young Justice animated.

Why Tana Moon? Look, you Super/Wonder ‘shippers got your white cis het romance, like you always do, in the comics.

Tana was brutally shoved into a refrigerator (actually, a bomb strapped to her neck was detonated, and we were treated to vague views of her horrifically burned head when we saw her body, including in a panel of aged-up Kon cradling her body) for the sole purpose of forcing character development and angst on Kon.  Some of what makes this so terrible is that Tana had been hoping for the very growth and maturity that Kon displayed following her death.

Let me at least imagine that I’m going to get my interracial romance in the cartoon, and that it won’t end in death?

Tana had to deal with Kon at his most immature and naive — she dealt with his wandering eye (generally handling the occasional exuberant female fan with aplomb, though she had trouble with that post-Knockout), his general baby-clone cluelessness about how the world worked, his breaking up with her in favor of Knockout.  She put up with mean-spirited office gossip both before and after getting together with Kon, but she stayed with him anyway.  She supported him in every way she could; she took him back when he pleaded with her for another chance when Knockout turned out to be a mistake.

Can you imagine Cassie doing that?  Cassie, who self-righteously scolded a homeless Kon for not having a job or something after Cadmus Labs shut down?  Cassie, who was jealous of Kon — not her boyfriend at the time! — playfully flirting with Cissie?  I can’t.

Why Tana Moon?  Because she’s awesome.  Because she loved Kon deeply, and she loved him when it wasn’t easy to love him, but she didn’t sacrifice her own needs and goals and dreams for romance.

Tana Moon may be best known as “Superboy’s first love interest” (despite many, many people who only read Young Justice trying to erase her or recast her as his “friend”), but that was not her only significance.  Just because you don’t place any importance on her doesn’t mean that no one does.

Tana Moon is pretty much the only major supporting character in comics, that I know of, who comes close to being my race.  She was dating the main character!  She had a great job that she really enjoyed doing!  She was smart, fierce, independent… and she was also subject to jealousy, insecurity, and anger (though she never seemed to let those negative feelings control her).  She was human.  She was important.

That’s why Tana Moon.

A good read. I didn’t collect the Superboy comics, but I was aware of Tana Moon and what she contributed to Superboy’s story.  And although I get that the above post is a retort for all the fangirls who Tana-erase/dismiss/slag,  I’d still rather not vilify Cassie’s ‘girlfriend’ qualities in comparison to Tana Moon’s.  Women’s ability to take care of an entitled self-pitying manchild shouldn’t be a contest. Clearly the dud that connects both female characters is Kon.  It’s not Cassie’s fault that she wasn’t a ‘good girlfriend’. Just like it’s not Tana’s fault that she put up with his jackassery out of love. It’s Kon’s fault for being a complete asshole to both Tana and Cassie in different situations and then getting away with it because he’s a cutie-wootie white* boy. 

* white-presenting for all intents and purposes. 

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