March 23, 2014

arkilliandragon:

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kylewithenvy answered your question:
(( I think they first met only briefly at Hal’s memorial service, after Final Night. Like pm Donna introduces them and that’s it. XD ))

Hmm… I’ll look that up tonight. I think I remember Kyle chatting to a few people there. It’s not really hanging out though T.T *sighs* Time to look for fanfic I guess :(

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boop!  Yeah their interaction is really minimal in canon.  I never understood why they didn’t have a team-up, since as you said they paired Kyle up with pretty much every other DC hero they could throughout his run. 

Strange! But yeah - that’s what fancreations are for. XD

March 14, 2014
yeah…

Contrary to popular belief, if Kyle had any sort of Green Lantern mentor(s), it was Alan Scott and John Stewart (retired at the time) and I’d even include Jenny Lynn Hayden Scott as one as well.  Guy Gardner was a friend and buddy but for the longest time Guy had firmly packed his GL identity away to embrace his Warrior persona.  Yeah yeah, I know fans prefer not to talk about the whole Vuldarian thing, but it existed and it existed specifically during Kyle’s run in Green Lantern v3.  

Speaking of which, Kyle’s run lasted approximately a decade and about 130 issues of Green Lantern, yeah? 1990’s and early Y2K, baby.  Kyle had a LOOOOOT of time being the solo Lantern in the universe before he became - as fans seem to see him? - merely Guy’s ‘protege’ and/or ‘sidekick’.  

Also keep in mind that Kyle was also a member of the Titans (briefly) and then a core member of the Justice League - he was part of (arguably) the best Justice League roster: Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Flash and Green Lantern.  And also - HE WAS THE LONE LANTERN FOR YEARS.  MANY YEARS.  He was Ion twice for pete’s sake, and a Guardian of the Galaxy for a while as well.

(sidenote: This all seems pretty Mary Sue, right?  Well that’s because Kyle was, it was the 90’s.  He’s in good Mary Sue company with Bruce Wayne, so. )

So all of this cutesy Kyle being like ‘sigh, GUY!!! ohmigawd’ and being Guy’s distraught-but-indulgent keeper and hapless, clueless kid brother and naive newbie Lantern…ugh.  It’s a slash!trope, I get it - when people slash these two they need the trope to work, so Guy fits the ‘bastard with the heart of gold’ archetype and Kyle is shoehorned into the ‘facepalming shy sensitive kid’ archetype.  I get it.  I don’t care for that trope at all, but I get that others like it.   It just seems that fans of this pairing aren’t aware that Kyle had over a decade of being pretty fucking amazing and hilarious and foolish and bull-headed and dorky and bold, before him and Guy became partners.

In fact, Kyle and Guy’s partnership happened in about 19 issues of the GLC book.  Over 130 issues of Kyle’s solo Green Lantern book versus 19 issues of an ensemble Lantern book…yeah.   (Needless to say that obviously Guy was around in canon history looooong before Kyle, but Guy’s personality took a huge revamp from GLv3 and Rebirth onwards. For the better, imo.) 

Perceiving Kyle’s Lantern career as sort of ‘starting’ with his partnership with Guy then diminishes and sometimes completely erases Kyle’s other major accomplishments and also his fascinating canon relationships - with Alan and John and Terry and Hal!Spectre and Donna and Connor and Wally and the Justice League and especially, especially with Jenny.

Like I said, I know many people are solely about the pairing (and tropes therein of slash pairings) more than the actual character.  I could argue that fandom prefers slash-fandom!Kyle over canon!Kyle.  But the two don’t seem to be the same character; at least not to me.*

* FYI that I’m not against the pairing, multishipping ftw.  I can totally see the potential of Guy/Kyle, just not in those particular tropes; specifically, I don’t agree with the typical slashfanon!Kyle’s personality.

April 7, 2013
arkilliandragon:

Green Lantern WIP by *dixey
She never uploaded the final version of this, but here’s a WIP of a picture I commissioned Dixey way back when the American dollar was INSANE and I was jsut starting to collect Kyle comics :) I found her cause she was a Kyle fan too- It’s always awesome to commission characters the artist is a fan of ^^

OMFG Dixey was one of my first online friends I’d made because we were both fans of the 1990’s Young Justice comic and I think we kinda met on a message board forum? Or a fanartist Yahoo mailing list group ahahah.  And we were also artists working on this dude’s online comic and we would email each other to kvetch and complain ahahahah.  
We even met and road-tripped from Michigan to Illinois, to the Chicago Wizard Con, I think. In like 1999 or something, wow.
Talk about a blast from the past.  Come to think of it, I’ll be she’s the reason why I became a fan of Kyle Rayner too. 
;_____; omg good times.  I used to love fandom so much. <3  *happy weeping*

arkilliandragon:

Green Lantern WIP by *dixey

She never uploaded the final version of this, but here’s a WIP of a picture I commissioned Dixey way back when the American dollar was INSANE and I was jsut starting to collect Kyle comics :) I found her cause she was a Kyle fan too- It’s always awesome to commission characters the artist is a fan of ^^

OMFG Dixey was one of my first online friends I’d made because we were both fans of the 1990’s Young Justice comic and I think we kinda met on a message board forum? Or a fanartist Yahoo mailing list group ahahah.  And we were also artists working on this dude’s online comic and we would email each other to kvetch and complain ahahahah.  

We even met and road-tripped from Michigan to Illinois, to the Chicago Wizard Con, I think. In like 1999 or something, wow.

Talk about a blast from the past.  Come to think of it, I’ll be she’s the reason why I became a fan of Kyle Rayner too. 

;_____; omg good times.  I used to love fandom so much. <3  *happy weeping*

March 5, 2013

skadichan:

arkilliandragon:

Wait… WAHT? The ring flew in the window and nearly knocked him out?! That’s not Kyle’s back story! Where’s the drunk bumm on the ground and the dark LA alleyway Kyle was going to take a slash in?

(And why is his hair brown? O.o )

Because this is the Kyle’s “Superman: The Animated Series” version.

In this early version, he’s is a composite character of Kyle and Hal.

Good thing that the creators showed all theim later, but I want more Kyle in animations! And Guy!

OMG time to nerd out and add that they made him into a composite character of all the male Earth Lanterns: he has the name and personality of Kyle (as well as being an artist); he looks like Hal (brown hair), he played football in college like Guy, and his GL uniform is John’s.

It’s kind of cute, idk. I know ideally it would be neat to have a just-Kyle kinda Kyle character, but I did think it was cute the way they incorporated all the dude Earth Lanterns into one character like this, and that it was Kyle in the end.

I did like this episode, it was enjoyable! Clark is so annoyed with the Guardians, but so polite, ahaha. And seeing Clark and Kyle fighting together got me all gushy 90’s JLA feels. XD

(Source: doomsday519)

February 21, 2013
Hal Jordan & Kyle Rayner - Adventures!!

kylewithenvy:

It seems a lot of comicbook GL fans of Kyle Rayner perceive his GL career beginning with the Green Lantern Corps, and/or specifically as Guy Gardner’s Lantern partner.  While it’s true that Guy was present throughout all of Kyle’s Green Lantern run, him and Kyle were not immediate BFFs, not at all. In fact Guy was (imo) less relevant to Kyle’s initial personal and Lantern growth than John, Alan, Hal and especially Jenny.  And Guy was closest to John. Their friendship really only blossomed post-Sinestro Corps War in the GLC.  

That means over fifteen years of canon for Kyle, pre-GLC.  Comic-timelinewise, that’s approx 6 - 10 years that Kyle was an independent, solitary GL, and he was a darn good one. Maybe even a bit Marty Stu…but that’s a debate for another day. ;D

So! Specifically, Kyle and Hal have a fairly long history together that GL fans might not be familiar with. I wanted to share!

For your enjoyment: A Hal-Kyle Relationship Primer!!!

(it’s a hell of a long primer;  50+ scans spanning 1994-2008?  you have been warned! IT’S REALLY CUTE THO.)

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Hal and Kyle, you adorable doofs.

December 17, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Awake for over 96 hours. Finally back on Earth. Sleep first, thoughts after.
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Awake for over 96 hours. Finally back on Earth. Sleep first, thoughts after.

- Kyle Rayner

December 16, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: The themeset prompt is ‘love life’. All I know how to do is visualize. That was the past. This is now.
- Kyle Rayner
(ps - Hal’s ring is on the wrong hand. ARTISTIC LICENSE!)

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: The themeset prompt is ‘love life’. All I know how to do is visualize. That was the past. This is now.

- Kyle Rayner

(ps - Hal’s ring is on the wrong hand. ARTISTIC LICENSE!)

December 15, 2012
Art exchange with Arkillian! Kyle, Guy and Carol in Coast City.
Scene based on her fic Chasing Starlight.
&lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3

Art exchange with Arkillian! Kyle, Guy and Carol in Coast City.

Scene based on her fic Chasing Starlight.

<3 <3 <3

December 14, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: The themeset prompt is ‘love life’. All I know how to do is visualize.  This was the past.
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: The themeset prompt is ‘love life’. All I know how to do is visualize.  This was the past.

- Kyle Rayner

December 11, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Last week of No Shave November! And it seems like someone, er, misplaced their razor…I wonder where it disappeared off to? Hm hm hm.
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Last week of No Shave November! And it seems like someone, er, misplaced their razor…I wonder where it disappeared off to? Hm hm hm.

- Kyle Rayner

December 10, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week Three of No Shave November! I think Hal’s trying to teach me something. But I don’t know what. ;D
-Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week Three of No Shave November! I think Hal’s trying to teach me something. But I don’t know what. ;D

-Kyle Rayner

December 9, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week Two of No Shave November! Joining Guy for a bout of beer and song and beardage.  Hal remains confounded by my hairsome adventures. Good thing John’s there to keep him company. XD
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week Two of No Shave November! Joining Guy for a bout of beer and song and beardage.  Hal remains confounded by my hairsome adventures. Good thing John’s there to keep him company. XD

- Kyle Rayner

December 8, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week One of No Shave November for me! I’m starting to suspect that Hal is a facial hair snob ;D.
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Week One of No Shave November for me! I’m starting to suspect that Hal is a facial hair snob ;D.

- Kyle Rayner

November 19, 2012
Fanart of a teddybear version of Kyle Rayner, as per request of bringbacklianharper!

Fanart of a teddybear version of Kyle Rayner, as per request of bringbacklianharper!

October 27, 2012
kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Clark and Diana take Bruce out for beer night at Warriors. (For those wondering, Clark’s trying a beer milkshake.  For Kryptonian tastebuds only).
- Kyle Rayner

kylewithenvy:

Art of the Day: Clark and Diana take Bruce out for beer night at Warriors. (For those wondering, Clark’s trying a beer milkshake.  For Kryptonian tastebuds only).

- Kyle Rayner

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